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It's a head ban with a cloth until the girls are 16

your book "potatoes and wogs" was to talk to The German teacher and author Julia Wöllenstein talks about the Integration of students from Muslim families. The German tabloid newspaper "Bild" reported on the teacher, the title of the article ("Some parents ask me to hit your child") has been at the school for the riots.

woman Wöllenstein, how was your last day of school before spring break?
was because of the article is very mixed. In my class I had already read from the book, we had good conversations about it. But in the parallel class, the excitement was big. The only "teacher about their daily life with Muslim students," and including the line "Some parents ask me to beat your child" read. Of the class teacher, I know that Muslim students my photo in the image with the swastika was decorated.

How did you react?
We all went into the theater room, I read a few pages and tried to come up with the students into the conversation. It was difficult, ultimately, they wanted to hear nothing more. My book is of course much more nuanced than that headline.

In April published her book "potatoes and wogs": Julia Wöllenstein (43) has been teaching for six years of English and drama at a German school in Kassel. Prior to her teaching degree, she was a theatre and social education. Photo: Dennis Blechner

is it True that some of the parents have asked you to beat your child?
I personally have experienced this only once and nothing else is claimed. However, colleagues will hear something and. For example, if the teacher says your daughter is always late, that it means, then, Yes, then you must be punished, beat them.

What to answer because as a teacher?
That you must or would like to.

What to tell your students to violence in the upbringing?
What do you mean, violence? This means respect to the clamp, have explained to me, my students, and only there, where you don't see it, it's not bad, woman Wöllenstein.

you have to write this attitude of Patriarchal structures in Muslim families. Patriarchal structures, but without the Religion very well.
Sure, I'm writing on a number of occasions. The Important thing that you must understand: We have no problems of Integration of Muslim students, because they are Muslim, but because of the Patriarchal structure that prevails in many Muslim homes, particularly in families from Arab countries, because the society is structured in such a way. That was not with us 100 years ago, much different. But today our secularized individual and company lives, neither the Patriarchate nor the Religion as strong as before.

"The separation between state and Religion in the school is not clear enough."

What are the integration issues?
We note, for example, in the school and increasingly heated arguments on the topics of Land, culture, and honor.

The word "son of a bitch" was "almost a guarantee" that the so-titled students losprügelt, is in your book.
In the case of Fifth - and sixth-graders I observe almost on a daily basis, mostly in the schoolyard. The word does not allow a student to sit. As the male members of the family, you feel obliged to defend the honor of the mother.

What do you do if two do it?
We take you to the page, then one is allowed to tell what was going on. The other listens, and then again, what has been said by the first. Then he is allowed to portray his point of view. Usually clears up so quickly, and this has upset the two. In addition, we will discuss conflicts on class Council meetings and work very closely with our school social workers.

what are the problems?
Among other things, to students, carrying their Religion. The one non-Muslim student into eating pork. Or don't want others to see it eat, if you fast in Ramadan. It took to say until I dared, no, the other must have their water bottles on the table and in your Ham sandwich bite can withstand, you have to. If you want fast, this is your thing. That's not to say that I respect the Faith of the children.

"What we need is a common teaching of all students through Faith, standards and values."

But you would keep the Religion out of school?
The separation between state and Religion in the school is not clear enough. The student will have to accept that they had to make our schools a degree, according to state rules. You can't just say, in the case of the Federal youth I'm playing with, because I've been fasting since.

What is religious education?
teaching of the Christian religion, I would forgo in the school, and the Islamic there in the first insertion. What we need is a common teaching of all students through Faith, standards and values. A lesson that connects instead of separating.

they call the problems in the Integration of "home-made". How is that supposed to mean?
I mean, we have to position ourselves much clearer. You can take our teachers, we are committed first and foremost to the basic law, and not of misconceived tolerance. But we need more political support. Example of equality: the state of immigrants, from the very beginning clear that in our school system, all children participate in excursions and school trips, then I wouldn't have to discuss constantly with parents whether their daughters mitdürfen.

you will not be the parents fault?
I would never say that parents are "to blame". You know it, we can't possibly expect you to move in with Entering the German soil our emancipatory development for many decades. This is a lengthy process. But he needs a clear message. For example, that parents need to let their daughters without a headscarf in the school.

"For us, the headscarf is a sign of oppression and sexualization."

you are calling for a ban on the headscarf?
Yes, until the girls are 16. That would be a clear sign that we separate state and Religion. The Herculean task to integrate in a foreign country, you need orientation. I wonder sometimes what it would be like if I were to move with my three children, to Iran. What I need to get in in the culture?

What do you expect from a head scarf ban?
For example, that the parents that do come to us in the school. In the discussions, we could then say, sorry, but this is just the way it is. For us, the headscarf is a sign of oppression and sexualization.

What would the girl?
girl with the head scarf, the responsibility for sexuality that are imposed. You feel so, you say, for example: If I go without a head scarf out, and then something happens, am I myself to blame. Some are only eight or ten, when their parents apply for them the headscarf. Girls should not but must not signal through the Veil, that she is sexually available, and certainly not in the age. And the far-reaching decision, whether you want to wear as an expression of their culture, headscarf, you should not meet as children.

Wear in your school a lot of head cloth?
A, two girls per class, mostly students from Arab countries.

"not solved When we ignore problems, from anxiety, to be in the newspaper as a Nazi, then we'll get them."

And the ban is not to indicate here what applies in your home?
Yes, that would be so. The school does not apply, perhaps you at your home, because you live in a country where women and men are equal.

they Come the law to your students with the reason?
Sure, we take the basic law in simple language. And you learn that children have the right to non-violent grow up, because it was banned in the year 2000, to beat their children, or hurt emotionally.

How do the students react to it?
Very interested, sometimes surprised, we have great discussions. Sometimes I wish that more of it remains hanging. It takes time and many attempts. The more important clear positions.

Are not a teacher, not clear enough?
I should be clear, with regard to the headscarf? You may not wear it, Yes.

Some things in your book, in the Chapter "duration of the loop, son of a bitch", could people confirm, the Muslims reject.
Because I name problems? If we ignore it, out of fear, in the newspaper as a Nazi, then we don't get solved. Those with resentment, I can only say: My heart beats for my school, and I love my students sincerely. It would be nice if we could make Things easier. (Editorial Tamedia)

Created: 06.05.2019, 17:04 Uhr

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