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Sabine Csampai was a pioneer, Jamila Schäfer is hopeful in the case of the Green: A conversation about the men's club policy and female solidarity.

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climate change conference in Katowice, Munich, Berlin: Jamila Schäfer has a full schedule. The conversation with the Deputy Federal Chairman of the Green, 25 years old, and Sabine Csampai, 66, former green councillor and third mayor of Munich, must therefore take place via video chat. Since Csampai lives in Tuscany, finds himself in front of Christmas no opportunity to get the two to a table. The two women do not know, a first-name basis immediately.

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