- Where did the them NAV took support from?

we All agree that those who can, shall, in the activity and get a job. But those who were deprived of the performance now really got the good and the right help, and where was it by them that the NAV took support from? It knows neither the NAV or the minister Anniken Hauglie, says Karin Andersen, a socialist left social policy spokesperson in Parliament.

HARMFUL: - the Obligation is as the medicine for everything now, but that another medicine can be harmful if the content and dosage are not adapted to the recipient, " says Karin Andersen. Photo: Gunnar Ringheim / Dagbladet Show more

NAV enlightened to the Dagbladet on Tuesday that 2300 people had stopped unemployment benefits in 2018 because they refused to participate in the action or a meeting with NAV.

600 persons refused to receive the offer of work, while a further 8500 people got stop in dagpengeutbetaling because they had put up the job without any reasonable reason.

In addition to carried out the NAV in the last year pull in the arbeidsavklaringspenger (AAP) at 800 cases.

- the Medicine against all

- the Obligation is as the medicine for everything now, but that another medicine can be harmful if the content and dosage are not adapted to the recipient, " says Karin Andersen, who leads the municipal and forvaltningskomiteen in Parliament, .

- NAV-director Sigrun Vågeng claim that: "regardless of all else is the work first". It is a mistake. Too much medicine makes people sjukere, and too much activity makes some that go on the NAV sjukere.

- Cut in the AAP period allows less time to be healthy, and fewer have the time to qualify for a job they can stand in. The drops out of the stønadene. But where do they go? she asks.

11 400 deprived of WELFARE benefits in the year

questions from The Daily about what has happened with all of that fell out of the AAp scheme, the answer WELFARE director Sigrun Vågeng:

- We shall analyze the effect of regelendringen. The first assays that with certainty will be able to say something about the consequences of regelendringen have had, are scheduled to be ready in the summer, " says Vågeng to Dagsavisen.

Show people respect,

Karin Andersen believes that the NAV has a lot going on.

- People who have been so sick that they are not clarified within the AAP, end up on social assistance with the obligation. Without the need to what kind of activity. It sounds like all the activity is good, but it is not there. When you are dealing with people who have it difficult, it is important to show respect and help that they've mastered, " she says.

A representative refers to the findings of a new study about the activity requirements among young people with mental disorders.

Phd Hilde Åsheim at the North University documents in its investigation that the activities can be counterproductive: instead of leading to the job they can lead to that the distance to the workplace increases and for the mentally ill it could be worse, " says A veteran.

"Senseless measures"

Åsheims study are discussed in the Welfare.no, that describes the main findings as follows:

* Young people are sent out in the practices and measures they perceive as meaningless and random.

* The young people feel that action has not brought them closer to the goal of employment.

* the Activity is attempted sometimes even when the NAV-employees do not see that it has some purpose.

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Karin Andersen points out that the activity requirements demands that NAV are able to provide activities that are relevant and experienced as meaningful for it to be activated.

the Problem is that the government does not set up with enough money to staff and measures. NAV-employees shall document the activities. This can result in measures being implemented for the WELFARE tutors will be able to show that something is done, even if they don't have any faith actions or it is the wrong action for the it comes. And should it help, we must talk about the lasting work, not random part time jobs no one can live off, " says Karin Andersen.

Fattigdomslinje

She believes, therefore, that the NAV and the municipalities should be imposed obligation with enough employees and money to the measure and qualification that leads to work.

- Then succeed more. Then we get a really arbeidslinje, instead of a fattigdomslinje, so much work now. The NAV-offices and the municipalities that do their job with wisdom, and provides good activity, succeeded also to a great extent.

- When it's not about the whip, but that it actually applies to experience measures that help, that they master something and they get something to do that is important and meaningful for herself and others. It is something quite different than to be forced to do meaningless things to disiplineres, says Karin Andersen.

Frp: - Saves billions

Erlend Wiborg (Frp), head of the ministry of labour and sosialkomiteen in Parliament, points out that with the progress party in government has both the Register regulations and the practice been greatly sharpened.

FP: - Sets you up on aktivitetsplikten or say up the job without any reasonable reason, it's not society's job to support you, " says Erlend Wiborg (Frp), the leader of Parliament's labour and sosialkomité. Photo: Henning " / Dagbladet . Show more

- the Introduction of the obligation for those under the age of 30 has been a success, and you also have restricted to those who voluntarily terminates the job and for those who are unemployed, but say no to a job offer. This has led to that over 11,000 have lost NAV support, and saves society an estimated 1.2 billion, says Erlend Wiborg.

I am delighted by these results. On the one hand, we save society huge amounts of money in clean kontantoverføringer. On the other hand, show we care by setting clear requirements. One can no longer sit passively at home and say no to the jobs that pop up and still receive benefits. Sets you not up on aktivitetsplikten or say up the job without any reasonable reason, it's not society's job to support you, " says Erlend Wiborg.

- Worked hard for

Frp representative asserts that the savings have come as a direct result of tightened rules or a stricter enforcement of the current regulations, that the progress party has worked hard for.

- In the new regjeringsplattformen, it is even more innstramminger that are intended to strengthen the arbeidslinja. We will expand aktivitetsplikten so that it becomes a general rule for all, not just those under the age of 30.

- There is no reason for the state to show you less care and put fewer demands, just because you went 30 years. When we get started with this, I suppose the state will be able to save additional amounts in hundremillionersklassen, " says Erlend Wiborg.

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