Shop talk with Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer : The CDU internal discussions about Merkel's refugee policy, have begun

Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer is briefly distracted, but it is exactly the thing. The CDU leader, is on Sunday evening on a Podium in the Konrad-Adenauer-house, and welcomed the participants of their "workshop conversation" to Migration. Suddenly kicherndes laughter. Did she really say "... we as a social Democrat inside and social Democrats ..."?

she. Kramp-Karrenbauer laughs. The Freudian slip is understandable. The SPD has plagued still with the Hartz - IV - Reform. Two half-days in the CDU Headquarters, to help prevent that the CDU and CSU with the refugee policy exactly.

Not all hold the workshop Format is appropriate, but Kramp-Karrenbauer like to get the abstract sense of debates as little as to the question of whether the "to be a kind of Tribunal" Absent or not: What is coming out of the workshop, you'll see. Others have clarified this delicate point, but rather in advance. The Meeting will "certainly at all no ostracism" about Angela Merkel, assured of Baden-württemberg's Minister of the interior Thomas Strobl, before he goes into the Adenauer-house.

The CDU Headquarters is outside all around the glass facades. The fits. Strobl was supported in the Union group, Merkel's refugee policy, all the party days have been behind the then Chairman. Stone throw in the Adenauer-glass house appears in this history is not a good idea.

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The emissaries of the CSU, tends, appropriately, to the riots: "We must together look to the future," said Bavaria's interior Minister Joachim Herrmann with the best wishes of his boss, Markus Söder order. "It brings nothing, ever-with the past to stop."

Thomas de Maizière is taking in the run-up to the air out of her

Yet another in the run-up to the air from the Meeting. Thomas de Maizière has written a book in which he reported about his time as Minister of the interior. In the pre-print in the "mirror" on the days in September 2015, de Maizière makes it clear that After the first wave of refugees from Hungary to close the borders would legally have been possible, "but by no means mandatory, as since then it is claimed".

He had joined the majority opinion of its in-house lawyers, but especially politically decided. Police officers with shields and rubber refugees with batons, chasing back, a wild camp on the border to Austria: "I was convinced that we would have given up after a few days in the face of these images and the border controls would have done so, as we have from the beginning."

So that's basically the discussion of the various legal schools on the right on the border. The invited experts not to look back for even more. On the Podium two basic pessimists bounce instead, to two skeptics that keep the problems still can be solved. The provocateur of the Frankfurt political scientist Egbert Jahn. "The causes of Flight we will not break down in the next few decades," says Jahn. To agreements with other countries of origin and transit, he believes not really. On "political Integration" of the refugees, he believes. For this, he paints the downfall of the Occident: "In 40 years of application: The CSU will be renamed in Christian-Muslim social Union."

That the others don't like because, but, under write. "To me, Munich is like the capital of a failed state", mocks the spiritual father of the EU-Turkey agreement, Gerald Knaus. Jahn grumbles later, that he had exaggerated a little. The Bonn government lawyer Christian hill, Gruber finds, however, that most of the refugees are not allowed to come to Germany – "The escape prior to the civil war ends in the Camps in Lebanon." and that you could save the Integration basically because of the protection for refugees from civil war "of its facility was a temporary protection". This is now the other theoretical: If he believe that in the foreseeable future, Syrians could go back to their homeland?

Knaus and the Constance of European law Daniel Thym argue for the view of the Feasible. Nothing of the debate get worse than sticking rigidly to Principles, warns Thym: "The Moralizing is exactly a simple answer, such as the foreclosure." Both save with criticism. "In 2015, we had a partial loss of control," says Thym. "The biggest mistake in Berlin was to think: We can do here, very quickly, a European solution!", Knaus says.

Gerald Knaus calls for a "coalition of the willing,"

on the Other hand, both hold nothing from Jahn's nihilism. "Germany is absolutely isolated ... Orban has won, Merkel has triumphed!" taunts the Frankfurt. Knaus admits that it had become in many countries for policy, refugees as possible to treat bad. But neither a Christian party such as the CDU in Germany the total could go this way: "We can not say, if we treat people poorly, then you go back to Bulgaria!" He argues for a "coalition of the willing" in Europe, which need to be addressed in a clever mix of Foreign and integration policy issues.

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After a good two hours Kramp-Karrenbauer thanks. In conclusion, all of the discussants are at least agreed that it was a lot more talking to each other. Even the provocateur, Jahn pleaded for compromise between the parties. Not an easy task, you have feeling of the hostess: "This is not a debate that ended with the present day," says Kramp-Karrenbauer of your party. For the state-most likely the policeman from Frankfurt, reported as the last from the audience: "I'm in a open and free society," says the man. He would like to give to his children – protected by a strong state against all who challenged him.