Interview | Teresa Rodriguez: The susanismo is incompatible with socialism

The “territory” of Teresa Rodriguez (Rota, Cadiz, spain, 37 years old) in the andalusian Parliament is a tower which is accessed by a clothesline/installation in hanging an “encyclopedia” of t-shirts protest. There has been designed a campaign from the left and the andalucismo that puts between your hands the keys of governance, although the candidate Ahead of Andalusia, warm and cultured in the conversation, attributed to the responsibility of unlocking the consciousness of the president of the Board. Do not talk, but they are doomed to be understood.

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Question. What is the susanismo?

Response. A PSOE second-generation affluent that has not known the union struggle or the dictatorship, away from the working class, without ideology, which has opened wide the doors to the right and speak a language that we are not able to understand. The susanismo is incompatible with socialism.

Q. did you Exclude that point of view an agreement of endowment and program with the PSOE?

A. The agreement can only occur in the convergence of proposals and programs. Depends on where you want the PSOE to place the social policy, education, employment. We can understand with the socialists if they emphasize the social agenda and the real needs of the andalusians to their own survival. In these three and a half years we have been in the opposition, because the susanismo looks like socialism, what an egg to a chestnut.

Q. Is it plausible that you apply to the support for the PSOE at the sacrifice of Susana Diaz?

A. Would like. The susanismo survives the own Susana Diaz because it is conceptual, generational. It is like a set of matrioskas. If you remove it, a copy appears more small, whatever your substitute. The susanismo it has forgotten the workers, the andalucismo. The susanismo is a PSOE professionalized, urbanite, which confuses systemic and systematic barriers between the Government, the party and the Administration.

Q. it does Not seem the appropriate setting for an agreement.

A. Is the PSOE that has to give a twist to their policies. The PSOE contemporary has derechizado. It has been put to dictation of Citizens. Because his only motive is survival. And that model is incompatible not only with us but with Pashacasino the complaints of the andalusians. Susana Díaz know that the PP is the adversary and that we are the enemy. The bipartisanship was a perfect solution, but we represent a threat to the comfortable space that the PSOE are believed to be guaranteed in the left. This is why she also is suspicious of us.

Q. do I Have to rectify then the measures that have already been approved by Susana Díaz with Citizens? Since the abolition of the inheritance tax up to the fiscal policy.

A. of Course you have to rectify the social policy and fiscal policy. It is not to raise taxes, but make them fall in higher incomes. The current scheme is unfair and unsupportive. We have requirements very specific. One of them is that the 5% of GDP andalusian have to be devoted to education. There will be agreement if there is consensus on these measures.

Q. Juan Marín denies the susanismo. Do you think that Citizens pactaría with Susana Diaz on the 3rd of December?

A. Clear that I think that PSOE and Citizens may agree on another time. They have been together for three and a half years. And repeated the marriage if needed. It will depend on what Rivera may order him to John Marin. Because these elections andalusian are for Rivera, the preseason of the general. The campaign, Rivera has been disrespectful. Have used Andalusia for moving the agenda of the state and its national interests. It has been a campaign of interference.

Q. do you And Paul Married?

A. The conduct of Paul Married in Andalusia has been tacky. Represents the right of madrid brings us the message of hatred, fear and xenophobia. Is it possible to talk of respect to our customs españolísimas the same day that capsizes a boat of immigrants in the Alboran. The PP dispute Vox speech fascist and racist.

Q. do And what it means to the input of Vox in the andalusian Parliament?

A. I don't think you get as many deputies as give surveys nor do I think that Andalusia is a land of immigrants, is sensitive to the message xenophobic, but it has been a error that Susana Diaz used Vox in the last televised debate as a weapon to their opponents. It is irresponsible. More still if we consider that not even she wanted to qualify to Vox as a party of the extreme right.

Q. what Has been premeditated to avoid the presence of Pablo Iglesias in the campaign?

A. Has come and can come when and how you want to, but it has been disciplined to the specificity of the campaign in andalusia. Here our alliance with the United Left is essential, as is the trait andalucista. It has been respectful.

Q. And do you have the impression that he has lost authority? The crisis of the intersections and the city Council of Madrid are questioning their leadership.

A. is Not a problem of leadership, but of the evolution of a model that you no longer need the dependency of a personalism. The movement Can by definition is a decentralized, municipal -, plurinational, I would say. We make a policy liquid. We do not want to be 140 years in power, as it claims to socialism.

Q. do you Fear that you re having elections in a situation of lock?

A. The unique lock-on stability of Andalusia has put Susana Diaz, with the provisionality of the legislatures, we have twice gone to the polls early, and with the precariousness of the covenants. Only she cannot be accused of blocking.