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Human rights : 2018 was a turning year

Mr. Roth, you will have to present their global report for the year 2018 in Berlin. Why?

We see in Germany, a decisive Player in a time in which many were this far to fail: In the US, Donald Trump ruled that the UK is engaged with the Brexit, Macron in France, often speaks about human rights, but provides.

you throw in the report of the Chancellor.

it is under pressure, but she has played a crucial role. And since Germany's security Council sitting, the next two years in the UN, it has a Position with real authority. Since we want to encourage the Federal government of Berlin a little bit.

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order That the German capital is also a kind of door to Eastern Europe, has played no role in your choice? After all, you make the governments of Hungary and Poland, as a human right women offenders in their World Report neatly.

no, it was not. But there is actually a Problem with Europe, to Hungary and Poland. The EU is a pioneer in human rights. But she is miserable in it, you against the are members. Those who have once been part of the club, must be based on the strict criteria is hardly to measure. We believe that it is the next years must be to make use of the EU budget. Poland is the largest net recipient of EU money in Hungary is one of the largest per head of its population. And Germany will have in 2020 the EU presidency.

you know yourself that the EU is using this medium maximum hesitantly.

you will need to but, if you want to be mistress of her existential crisis. The governments of the two countries, which I called, to use EU-funds, your political Agenda to implement. In Hungary you have to bring food and toilet paper to the hospital, but at the same time Orbán builds stadiums, huge football. The EU should face this Problem with themselves seriously. Orbán does not want to destroy them eventually, he finds the economic benefits of membership. But he wants to levels the EU down.

you speak in your report of him, and other than new autocrat who come in the cloak of democracy. You are worse than the old one?

they are different. Traditional dictators wear military uniforms and do not do so, as you give something on democracy. The new by-election to Power. The consensus they have built up, by telling vulnerable minorities to be scapegoats for everything that goes wrong. Once in Power, they destroy according to plan the content of democracy, the separation of powers, and civil society groups. What you want is the Form, not the substance of democracy. This works world wide so, it is absolutely predictable.

And what is from your point of view about it? You have given the example of the Chancellor. Who can feel the breath of the Right in the neck, has little options.

The best way, against the extreme rights, your prevent. Who wants to defend democracy, it must recognize that citizens have real problems. Many has left behind the decades of neo-liberal course of economic policy, and many of the technical change. Immigration makes people culturally unsafe. In such a confused, slightly at the simple promise and declarations of demagogues who tell them that all immigrants are to blame. The task is to say, the real problems to recognize and solve. And at the same time make it clear that the search for scapegoats is not a solution: Even if Migration would be brought to Zero, would not bring technological change to a standstill. And it is also the watch would not turn for our modern societies are already multicultural. You have to fight the myths of the demagogues. And you not to the right follow.

you mention in the report the name of Seehofer.

Exactly, that went really wrong. As elsewhere, The Attempts to Mark Ruttes in the Netherlands, the government of Sebastian Kurz in Austria: strengthens the right edge only. And choice of outputs, as in Bavaria, you can see that Appeasement helps to the right. More than that, It has led to the strengthening of the Green, which were now ruled against the exclusion of migrants. This shows that the vast majority don't want to make a really final with democracy and human rights.

One of the myths that you describe is An authoritarian System is more effective. The create, what is being discussed to death in democracies for many years and may never be realized.

Now, since our democracies appear to be a bit disoriented, there is a growing danger that the solution of the strong man appears attractive. Only autocrats can, in principle, not accountable. The you seduced, necessarily, not for their countries but for its own power politics. The currently most striking example is Venezuela. This was once the richest country in Latin America. Today, the Venezuelans are starving, their jobs are destroyed, and the drugs are missing and three million people have fled the country. President Maduro has suppressed the Opposition, and the wealth of the country to be abused, to hold on to Power. The large Oil reserves of Venezuela are pledged for decades to come in China. The so-called strong men are extremely bad for their countrymen.

China is also strong in its focus.

Yes, because Chinese money corrupts governments around the world and infrastructure in their countries which are often in the best interest of the people living there. And it is also an example of the misfortune, the authoritarian Regime. China's much-admired economy resembles more and more a bubble.

Back to the strong men of the first world. The danger is that as things happen that were previously impossible – and thus repeatable? A US President who imprisons children...

.. Italy, the people of the Libyan coast guard spurs..

.. for example. The Standards reduce such practices in democratic States in the long run?

fortunately, seems to be the opposite. As horrible as this is, what has made Trump at the border: This behavior has sent a kind of a Wake-up call in the world.

the global outrage?

Not only. Also the resistance. And how successful he was. As we prepared the current World Report, I was surprised what a strong counter-movement there was in the past year – in particular, what happens to Terrible. 2018, the year of a shift, an incision was. Big players have left the field. And small followed, and have taken up the rod. We are in the midst of a large battle. And it's not the usual Suspects, the fight in the USA, the UK, France.

For example?

In the case of Venezuela, you can see that the extract the United States from the UN human rights Council – which has, incidentally, never before has a state to have almost a Blockade seems solved. Never before has the South American States had criticized one of their own, which was regarded as the dirty work that no one wanted to take over in the US backyard. Now you have condemned the Maduro government, and recommended a trial before the International criminal court ICC. The organization of Islamic States, which had never criticized another country, as Israel was now against Myanmar's expulsion of the Rohingya, and helped to secure the evidence so that the crimes of the Muslim minority may one day be punished. In Poland resistance to the judiciary, thousands took to the streets. And the place of the major countries that advocate for human rights, Luxembourg small and medium-sized resigned, in Europe, for example, and Belgium. They have allied with civil society organisations – here are a few new actors have emerged; new alliances have emerged. 2018 was the year in which we came from shock and Resignation to be effective against the military.

you don't say that because you need in your professional optimism?

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no, it really was. And that is very encouraging.

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