'Tolo Tolo' is full of jokes and situations that make you laugh, but in the background there is the Africa with all its contradictions. That trip was?
"that's Incredible. Starting from the duration, a year and a half between writing and filming. I have not seen the winter for two years, I was in Kenya, with 50 degrees. I have remained in the emotions of the trip. The encounter with a child in a village, Nassor Said Birya. Was among those who came to ask for candy, but it was the most lively, the most brilliant. He had the eyes and the make of the actor. I pulled out the phone, I found an interpreter, and with that child I tried the scene in which it sells Dolce and Gabbana. At the beginning she didn't know what he was saying. At the end of the film I realized one of the most important things of being a director: the ability to choose a face. In that case we are successful."
He understood the suffering of Africa
"The down. The film is set in the village of Saint-Jacques, imagined close to the Senegal, where it begins the journey of the migrant, desert, sub-saharan. But that village, in truth, is in Kenya, another Africa. I have not seen suffering, I have seen children laughing, people live with the joy and the slowness of their hours, without electricity, often without a means to move around. I have seen people riding a horse and is happy. I realize that may appear rhetoric".
Mal d Africa
"Perhaps, yes, I have a little sore of Africa".
Remember 'Will our heroes find their friend mysteriously disappeared in Africa?' "
"But that movie is much more beautiful".
There is the scene in which the Deaf and Blier make a barrel with the Portuguese.
"And if we were three, you menavamo in three.
The scene shows two of the Italian '68, which fail to keep the anger in front of a striking gesture of racism. She has reversed the position and for the 2019 invented the gag of fascism that comes out from us with the stress and the heat, as the Candida, but you care. Confidence in Italian?
"Yes. According to me, the fascism will never return, and not only because it is forbidden. As I wanted to say in the film, when we feel threatened, even by the most stupid things, this comes out our side-intolerant, but we are also the ones capable of embracing us. I don't want to repeat myself, but I can't not mention De Gregori, the people "know what to do. Those who have read millions of books. And those who do not even know how to speak." There is a sequence in the film where my two wives, belonging to two different political factions, faced with the fact that I'm alive embrace. A gesture that lends itself to different interpretations. One is on transformation, on the notes of De Gregori, the other is that we are able to overcome the difficulties, we know becoming clever".