Raed Saleh and Maja Lasic : We are fighting for the establishment of the Berlin teachers

Berlin suffers since 2014 under acute shortage of teachers. Why does the Berlin SPD, the debate on the re-establishment now?

Raed Saleh : The topic of the establishment is not a heart's desire of the SPD. We had not made a conscious decision to verbeamten. We went in 2004, the other provinces would choose to do so gradually. But the situation remained: to Berlin, all the other countries verbeamten continue to be their teacher. The provides Berlin, new challenges.

It was not true that we verbeamten. But it would be wrong not to verbeamten today as the only state. Therefore, we can no longer afford not simply to verbeamten. In the interest of the children.

We may be in this point, not to be stubborn and ideologically: in order for more teachers to come to the Berlin schools, we need to verbeamten and so our kids have a better perspective.

On Saturday, the SPD's vote at the party conference over establishment. Are you in favour of?

Maja Lasic : We will advertise for the return to the establishment. But decide the party needs it.

Saleh : I am for the return to the establishment and fight to the Congress.

Helps the establishment to inspire teachers for Berlin?

Saleh : it helps that not so many teachers from Berlin migrate as in the past. It could even return a teacher to Berlin, the work now in the state of Brandenburg. And even graduates from other States for us to start, because Berlin as a city is highly attractive for you. In the case of re-establishment of the Berlin teacher training would be provided to students shortly before graduation, the choice to leave Berlin in order to have somewhere else for better conditions. At the end we had more trained teachers.

the establishment may so the Problem of the teacher shortage relieve. At any school you will hear of the Problem. Trained teachers are lacking in focal point schools in socially difficult Neighborhoods everywhere in Berlin. We have a duty to consider how we can use this Problem to the schools to fix. This is not a question of money, but of social justice. We are not allowed to carry the Problem on the backs of students.

Lasic : The Numbers speak for themselves. Firstly, we have to pay half of the applicants for traineeship places, secondly, we have 20 percent of the trained teachers, not to stay in spite of application in Berlin, and we have from year to year, more teachers leave in spite of a permanent position in Berlin. We have to recognise that we have a competitive disadvantage and need to compensate.

The SPD holds a lot from the solidarity system. The mayor pursues the idea of the solidary basic income. How do you explain the the Enjoyed that civil service teachers, pay into the social community?

Lasic : For us, equal pay for equal work. And that we're serious, we have shown in the collective bargaining rounds in the alignment of the educator inside salaries. The same Credo applies to our teachers. The fundamental relationship between employees and officials must be at the Federal level is cleared. We are not allowed to unsubscribe on the backs of the teachers.

But it's not in Berlin, 6000 to 8000 teachers cannot be civil servants, because they are healthy, or, the age limit of 50 exceeded. What you say to them?

Lasic : education for a politician, I think about how you can create these groups to compensate, for example by paying a regional allowance. But this does not change the principle of decision-making.

How do you want to reflect the costs arising in the long term, from the lush, pension payments and other financial benefits of civil servant status, in the country budget, when the debt brake engages? Or you expect only in the short term, that Berlin could relieve the burden on its budget due to the elimination of social security contributions to EUR 250 million per year, when the country's civil servants?

Saleh : Again, for me, the establishment is not a question of money. We can't afford it, whole generations of children. We need trained teachers in the schools, particularly at the focal point of the schools of our city, where only newcomers and not-trained teachers will be set. This can't go on. And since I don't look at the money.

Lasic : In the matter of the transition to a re-establishment of the financial issue is not a priority, because the savings in the current households and the future payments due to the pension Fund "compensate". Otherwise it is the demand of the coalition partners, the teaching profession, by providing financial allowances to upgrade. The claim is raised as a counter-proposal for the establishment of an official, however, immediately more burden on the budget and is, therefore, economically considered, is clearly at a disadvantage.

Berlin could do a Quick something to counter the out-migration of graduate teachers to the College, if the country would give the trainees more money. Why doesn't that happen?

Lasic : This debate is guided in parallel. The appreciation of the legal clerkship in Berlin will break the debate on the establishment. If we upgrade only the clerkship, we move – if at all – only the time at which teachers from Berlin to say goodbye. We have to get to the core of the competitive disadvantage can get unequal pay in the permanent position.

How you want to convince your coalition partners? The red-red-green coalition contract does not foresee the. The Greens warn that an establishment would lead to the wrong position in the colleagues. Instead, the party of multi-calls for professional Teams in the classes with teachers, educators and psychologists.

Lasic : The Argument is, I think, is a smokescreen. The Greens also know that we already have multi-professional Teams and to remove them from the household budget. Nevertheless, we have the inequality of the Berlin teachers in comparison to other States.

Saleh : If you don't hear deeper in the Green, are you opposed to this in principle. We are looking for in the coalition is the best way of social justice. I believe me in the head, when I hear, we would be throwing fog candles. I'm thinking of the children in the school, we need to train well. And since it's not about me, once again, first and foremost, the cost.

it May be that the Greens can ultimately convince. But the Left is opposed to it. You have to offer the Left something for the appointment?

Saleh : If the SPD decides for the appointment, we will speak with Green, and Left. Policy is approaching at the end of the art. And to say to the Left I: this is not about ideology.

A Yes in the SPD to the expropriation of Deutsche Wohnen and of other large real estate companies could make it easier for the Left to be a ' Yes ' to the establishment, or?

Saleh : This has to do with the other nothing. If the SPD is in favour of service on Saturday at the Congress for the establishment of an official, we will talk in connection with the Left and the Greens. We will deal with the issue of expropriation to the party.

And how are you to expropriation or nationalisation?

Saleh : I'm on the subject of expropriation torn. It is true that there is this possibility in the basic law, and that the principle applies, the property required. In individual cases, you can use the Instrument of expropriation. It has happened before. The call for expropriation of the Berliners, is now a cry for help. The rent question is the new social question.

On the other hand, wants to expropriate the Initiative company with more than 3000 apartments in the portfolio. This statement is to me in a lump sum. There are owners of more than 3000 apartments, the handle is very social with the tenants, such as the evangelische Hilfswerk-Siedlung. I advocate for more diversity. The appearance must not be awakened, that Berlin investors is hostile.

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