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Educational researcher Gerd Gigerenzer : Germany is a surveillance society

Mr Gigerenzer, recent data scandal, the politicians, celebrities and journalists to the victims, shows how bad data is protected in Germany. Has you surprised?

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Educational researcher Gerd Gigerenzer : Germany is a surveillance society

Mr Gigerenzer, recent data scandal, the politicians, celebrities and journalists to the victims, shows how bad data is protected in Germany. Has you surprised?

no. It has already given earlier hacker attacks. And the growing digitisation will lead to such attacks – in spite of all the safety measures are the normal condition.

This means an effective level of protection it can give?

So it is.

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What can you do?

You don't need to necessarily have a Smart Home that is networked with the Rest of the world. This reduces the risk to be hacked.

you would put no fridge in their kitchen that automatically re-orders Goods over the Internet?

I can self missing in the fridge and see what. And I don't have to turn on my coffee maker from the car. We have the German Council of economic experts, hackers interviewed, teaching at the universities of applied Sciences. And they say The most Dangerous part of the whole digitisation, the Internet of things. If hackers crack your fridge, you can hack in this way, in the worst case, even nuclear power plants.

Comfortable Serving or home spies: the speakers Google Home, and Amazon Echo are to be equipped with the language assistants Britta Pedersen/ZB/dpa

How dangerous voice assistants? The to hear Yes all the time, what to speak.

The potential home of the spies.

So hands off?

Yes. We are a surveillance society, because the people for the sake of convenience take advantage of such offers. You know the story of the parrots, has ordered on Alexa lining? So, you see how obedient these supposedly intelligent assistant voice. This prevents a lot of people but not to use them. Some but not, I think, clearly, what you bring into the house.

What do you mean?

you Take the Samsung Smart TV. Draw everything in, all the personal calls that you make. And pass these on to third parties. This is even in the license agreements.

Surveillance at the train station Südkreuz: the Ministry of The interior was highly satisfied.Photo: Markus Schreiber/dpa

But who wants to buy a new, modern device, get such products. You even have the choice?

customers want If there is enough something else, there will be a market. The Problem is: people don't think about it. But you have to talk about the topic. Perhaps there is in our society, the desire to protect against Terror, and the Surveillance is taken, therefore, in the time of purchase. Some of the projects run in this direction. At the Südkreuz station, the Ministry of the Interior tried and tested a monitoring system with facial recognition. And now there is the idea of a diesel-driving bans using video surveillance to enforce. To do with Monitoring multi-safety or law-abiding forces, is also in China as a justification for the control of the citizens. Most Chinese find the System well, because they hope that by Monitoring the corruption is to be tackled and local authorities, companies or Doctors to be better controlled. Behind it, the longing is for harmony, sincerity and the strong state, of the says.

we Are in Germany on the way in the direction of Chinese conditions, where social well-behavior of Algorithms is controlled?

We are on the way, but the path looks different. In China, the process from the top runs down, the state controls the citizens with the help of Internet groups Alibaba and Tencent. In Germany, most people will not do of itself, in order to improve the morality of society as in China, but because they love technical toys and small comodities promises. The advantage of private companies, data brokers, and the leak your data.

What are these companies?

Acxiom or the Deutsche Post direkt GmbH have such programs. Acxiom operates internationally and claims to have data of 800 million people, including about 44 million Germans.

you criticize the frivolous treatment of many people with your data. But who behaves in a different way, not on Facebook, is quickly under suspicion, to have something to hide.

Properly, who does not monitor is suspect. This is reminiscent of the Stasi. Ex-Google CEO Eric Schmidt once said that if you do something, the other should not know, then you should prefer to leave it. Google and the Chinese government are in this moral stance is quite similar.

Who does not want to give his information, found it very difficult to get cheap loans or travel.

Our government should be strong against control. And finally, we must lead the social dialogue about where our path in Germany. If we let everything run, will create the big corporations, Google, Facebook, Apple or Amazon, the facts.

All countries are investing in Artificial intelligence. More technology automatically means more Monitoring?
no. You could prevent the commercial merging of data and the deanonymization of data in a technically and by law.

What should policy do now?

We need first of all a better digital education of the citizens. Our government understands that each student gets a Tablet. I understand the young people to do so competently, that you can get the control over your Smartphone or Tablet. There are definitely deals in the education sector, right up to kits with which children can build a small bed for your phones and you lay there sleeping.

What is with stricter laws?

it is necessary To prevent the commercial merge and personalization, or deanonymization of data and the spying on the people below say, for example, by Barbie dolls. This snooping can destroy trust.

Barbie dolls?

The first Barbie doll has given many women a bad body feeling, the next Generation could speak and then said things like "math is hard, let's go shopping". The third doll is a Smart Barbie, has listened to what the little girl entrusted to her - Barbie has recorded all of these secrets and Mattel passed on. And Mattel has sold more to parents. Imagine, the child finds out!

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Fabian Löhe

Personalized advertising and personalized prices. If our government could abolish, or control, would be much won. The price we pay for the increased Surveillance of the people is too high.

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